river dove

[yorkie]

Yorkie

I cant say too much but, i am involved with a club (not Dove valley) that is hoping to get the waters concerned. IT is a good club not focussed on profit and carp but simply centered on fishing.

Carper, thanks for the reply.

Can you hang on to my details and let me know what develops, I know there will be several other members or ex members interested in continuing their access to a beautifull river

[yorkie]

Carper,

PM sent,

[Predatorphil]

As the "ordinary" member has had 2 more waters removed in the past year (Olvers and now the Dove), does this mean a reduction in the season ticket price?
A member for 40 years now and until recently would agree that the Pride offered excellent value for money, but it doesn't any more. I may well also vote with my feet. The arrogance and short sightedness of the directors who run this club may well be it's undoing.

[yorkie]

As the "ordinary" member has had 2 more waters removed in the past year (Olvers and now the Dove), does this mean a reduction in the season ticket price?
A member for 40 years now and until recently would agree that the Pride offered excellent value for money, but it doesn't any more. I may well also vote with my feet. The arrogance and short sightedness of the directors who run this club may well be it's undoing.

Bang on Phil,

Maybe Alan and whoever else makes decisions for the POD should consider this.

How many premier members are there? 200 is it? They only fish the complex so why would they join otherwise?

And how many "ordinary" members are there? 1000 plus? shortly to diminish I think. Who pays the most?


And the single most important issue here is this,
What would happen to the POD s finances and policies if as is quite common today, some disaster, be it polution or yet again another crap specific virus should wipe out the complex fishery?

If the directators were forward thinking enough they ought to realise

[guitarman]

I don't check the website very often now as in the past few months there has been nothing going onto it and I must say I was most surprised to read this item.
I have only been a member for just over 4 years and in that time highbridge or highgrove whatever it was called - olvers and now the dove have been taken off the standard ticket.
For me the main draw towards this club was the good selection of waters especially the rivers.
I only really fish the rivers - the dove and derwent not the trent - grimleys pond is fine for a change but I can't abide going onto the complex - "There is more to fishing than catching fish" springs to mind there. Each to their own, though.
I have said several times on this forum that the membership fee is worth it alone for the Derwent - That statement looks like being tested to the limit now.
Cyclonebri sometimes had an "unfortunate" way of expressing things but he did say during the olvers "debate" that the writing was on the wall for further waters being taken off the standard ticket and the club (business) would concentrate on carp waters - He will be saying "I told you so"
I still think - for me personally - that the membership is worth it for the Derwent but - well - I don't know about the rest of the clubs waters that remain on the standard ticket - not really my cup of tea I am afraid when I think that the canal is the one that would be of most interest to me.
Steve

[fishface]

I have fished the Dove for the past couple of seasons. Up until then I really focussed on the Pride sections of the Trent and Derwent. For me the Pride section of the Dove was an outstanding water. Infact last season I only really fished the Dove, it was that good. True not many fished it but most times I was down there there would be one or two others. Why on earth didn't the club at least consult the ticket holders, surely there could have been a way to keep this water. Seems strange that the Directors could afford the rent when the top stretch was for their own personal use! Anyway what is done is done, I've decided not to renew my ticket and neither are two friends of mine. The irony is I don't really look at the website very often, if I hadn't I would have gone ahead and renewed, not knowing the Dove stretch has gone. I hope the powers that be will be writing to all ticket holders to inform them of this!

[crapcarper]

Hi Guys,

Before i start i will let you all know i am a premium ticket holder.

Being a premium ticket holder you may all be thinking ok so we have got another out and out carp basher on our hands, This is not the case. I fish pretty much all of pride waters (baring the canal because me and barges don't get on). The reason for me having the premium ticket is because of the quality of the fish the lakes hold and the potential they are proving to have.

I do though sympathise with the people that only want to fish on the standard ticket because we appear to be losing water hand over fist. But look at it from us premium members eyes, we too are losing the right to fish the dove, admittadly we are gaining the exclusive right to of olvers but we are also having an extra 25 premium members added, olvers does'nt holded 25 people. Therefore we too are losing fishing potential.

So personally I agree it is wrong that people are losing waters to fish but its not just standard members being hit, it is us premium ticket holders too.

I don't know if you guys have sat down and thought where the majority of the money has gone the last couple of years in terms of bettering the quality of fishing, but it has been pumped into the standard ticket waters. The match lake has been stocked the last 2 or 3 years running, Grimleys has been stocked on multiple occassions. All that the premium ticket men have seen is the roads being done (to everyones benefit) and a couple of fish added to olvers during the match lake stocking.

So i think you all need to sit back and think what your getting for £50 (10 trips to a day ticket water) because in all fairness your not that bad done to.

[malcolm]

i have just returned to kent from fishing the river dove while there the farmer mr archer came to see us i found him very pleasent he told me that the rent on the water is due at the begining of jan. this year it was not paid and he had to ask why not .and apparently he was asked if the club could rent yust one field .he told alan no and it has been put out to tender .the day we were there he had two club reps. coming round to look at the water .i was also told that i should not realy be fishing due to the club not having the fishing rights since jan. but that he was qiite happy for us to stay .it would have been handy for someone from the club to have told me rather than to put me in an embarasing situation. ihope this clears a few things up for you all. i look forward to hearing your further comments.

[fishface]

It would seem from what you are saying Malcolm that the club may have had difficulty paying the rent owed. Also Crapcarper thinks £50 for a season ticket is good value and I would have to agree. However, if the ticket cost, say £60 rather than £50, that would still be excellent value for money and would surely more than cover the cost of whatever the Dove was costing the club.

[yorkie]

Hi Guys,


I do though sympathise with the people that only want to fish on the standard ticket because we appear to be losing water hand over fist. But look at it from us premium members eyes, we too are losing the right to fish the dove, admittadly we are gaining the exclusive right to of olvers but we are also having an extra 25 premium members added, olvers does'nt holded 25 people. Therefore we too are losing fishing potential.

So personally I agree it is wrong that people are losing waters to fish but its not just standard members being hit, it is us premium ticket holders too.

I don't know if you guys have sat down and thought where the majority of the money has gone the last couple of years in terms of bettering the quality of fishing, but it has been pumped into the standard ticket waters. The match lake has been stocked the last 2 or 3 years running, Grimleys has been stocked on multiple occassions. All that the premium ticket men have seen is the roads being done (to everyones benefit) and a couple of fish added to olvers during the match lake stocking.
So i think you all need to sit back and think what your getting for £50 (10 trips to a day ticket water) because in all fairness your not that bad done to.

Not quite as you suggest CC. The match lake as was and olvers, then a standard ticket water, were plundered to cherry pick fish for pride lake?
And just what was the cost of the M25 and additional barriers etc around the complex?

The standard member has been much more harder hit than premier ticket holders, and someone made a very valid point earlier that had the option been given to take a hit on the ticket price to save the Dove the majority would have accepted it, however as is the norm the membership did not get the option. Also strange how the 1st Mr Archer new of this was when the rent wasn't paid. What a way to run a club, sorry,"bussiness"

PM sent Steve Guitar man.